Some New Orleans area trees

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Some New Orleans area trees

Post by tsharp » Sat May 26, 2018 4:56 am

NTS, Larry T.
Enticed by some cheap airfares from Columbus, OH to New Orleans, Susan and I spent several days in the New Orleans area at the end of April.

Sites visited included the City Park where several Live Oaks were measured with the largest listed below.
Live Oak Quercus virginiana 13.7' x 59.4', 18.2' x 41.5'


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18.2' x 41.5'

The above pictured Live Oak is known as "The Dueling Oak". Larry Tucei measured this tree and some other Live Oaks in a visit to the City Park in 2008.
Here is a link to his report:
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... isiana.htm
and
http://www.duellingoaks.com/

Also visited was the Jean Lafitte National Historic Park and Preserve. The unit visited was called the Barataria Preserve near Marrero, Jefferson Parish just south of New Orleans. The preserve has acres 23,000 acres of land and water
We strolled along the Coquille trail and boardwalk among plentifull birdl ife and a few alligators. A few heights of Bald Cypress were measured with the tallest at 80.1'. No diameter measurements were taken.
Baldcypress Taxodium distchiuium *** x 80.1'
The most impressive tree is pictured below. It is known as the "Monarch" of the Forest or Swamp. It did look impressive but partly because the surrounding trees were not impressive. It is registered Louisiana Purchase Legacy Tree. My estimated circumference judged from from the boardwalk would be in the 19-20' range.


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**** x 76.2'

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by MarkGraham » Sat May 26, 2018 7:25 pm

Those City Park Live Oaks are impressive. I wonder if that grove was cultivated by Native Americans or if the group of very old trees (800 years) arranged themselves naturally.

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by tsharp » Sun May 27, 2018 1:55 pm

Mark:
I do not have much experience being around Live Oaks but I doubt they are 800 years old. I have never read of cultivation of Live Oaks by Native Americans. Perhaps Larry Tucei could weigh with an opinion.

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Post by Larry Tucei » Tue May 29, 2018 8:40 am

Turner- City Park is loaded with Live Oaks most are less than 100 years. Mark- City Park was formerly Allard Plantation. The largest Live Oaks are growing next to the remnants of Bayou Metairie an ancient tributary of the Ms River. The largest Live Oaks in the Park are maybe 250 years. These are photos of some of the largest.
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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by MarkGraham » Tue May 29, 2018 11:40 pm

I see much greater age claimed for McDonogh oak on park web site. Do you think it is possible for live oaks to live 800 years?

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by Larry Tucei » Wed May 30, 2018 6:56 am

Mark- Live Oak may reach 400 years. You have to core several trees in an area for an accurate age estimate. These claims of 800 years are just estimates. Larry

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by MarkGraham » Wed May 30, 2018 5:41 pm

Probably cultivated by settlers then. Found this paper, apparently rings are hard to read on Live Oaks. Link is to abstract.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6511000397

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by Johnmichaelkelley » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:03 pm

In reference to the Cypress Legacy trees, Harvey Stern(founder) and I have found some pretty cool new Cypress in Northern Louisiana if the airfare ever works out for you again.

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Re: Some New Orleans area trees

Post by tsharp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:52 pm

John: Thanks for heads up. If air fares cooperate I will get in touch.

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