Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

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Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

Post by bbeduhn » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:34 pm

I went to visit one of my favorite trees, a large tulip that is still growing vigorously. Ramsey Cascades is in the Greenbrier area of the park. It's mostly old growth forest and is extremely lush and mossy. The giant hemlocks were mostly dead. One 3' diameter one was still alive with a dead crown.
Healthy hemlocks
Healthy hemlocks
Craggy black gum
Craggy black gum
Old, productive stump, likely chestnut
Old, productive stump, likely chestnut
Rhododendron growing out of old stump
Rhododendron growing out of old stump
Red maple with large protrusion
Red maple with large protrusion
Healthy sourwood
Healthy sourwood
Craggy tulip crown
Craggy tulip crown
Twin tulips
Twin tulips
Twin tulip crowns
Twin tulip crowns
19'9' Tulip, 10 yards from the twins
19'9' Tulip, 10 yards from the twins
Hershey tree (mountain silverbell)
Hershey tree (mountain silverbell)
Fairly healthy 3' hemlock
Fairly healthy 3' hemlock
red hickory 116.5'
beech 103.4'
chestnut oak 110.4'
black birch 111.1'
black locust 112.5'
red maple 106'
black gum 95.5'
sugar maple 114'
Fraser Mag 117.5' Shooting straight up. 117.4' with good sight of the top but may top 119'. Near record
sycamore 126'
white ash 112'
hemlock 119.5' 117.2' 117' 116.1'
tuliptree 157.5' (16'10") 156.5' (15'7") (twins) 150' 139.5' 139.5' (19'9")

No need for a Rucker. I didn't hit enough trees. There are taller ones I didn't get to measure. The trail has been measured in the past but quite a few years ago, I believe.
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Re: Ramsay Cascades, GSMNP

Post by edfrank » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:02 pm

Brian,

Those tuliptrees are barely grass stalks.

Ed
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Re: Ramsay Cascades, GSMNP

Post by Bart Bouricius » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:42 am

Nice post Brian,

It is nice to see real old growthTulips that have a really substantial girth as well as impressive height.

Bart

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Re: Ramsay Cascades, GSMNP

Post by jamesrobertsmith » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:03 am

I don't think I've ever hiked that trail. I need to do something about that.

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Re: Ramsay Cascades, GSMNP

Post by Will Blozan » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:45 pm

Brian,

Indeed, one of my favorite trails except for the people...

Looks like your "craggy leaning tuliptree" may be a blackgum?

Nice Fraser Magnolia- is it right on the trail? I had a similar height a few years back.

Will

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Re: Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:44 am

I'm fairly certain about the tuliptree but the shape is a bit odd for a tulip. I looked at it for a while to ID it but I can't remember if I actually saw tulips up top or not. That's a big gum if it is! Either way, there's some serious age to it. It's right next to the old jeep road at the end of the wide path. There are some black gums along the trail. The Fraser Magnolia is right next to the trail, just before the three amigo tulips (the twins and the big daddy).

Ed,
I'll try to find some more worthy trees for you. I know the 35' 250' is out there somewhere.

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Re: Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

Post by Matt Markworth » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:44 pm

I was reading about the hike to Ramsey Cascades on various websites, and ran across this comment. What a great problem to have!
To me the end was not worth it only because there was a large tree blocking most of the water fall.
- Matt

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Re: Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

Post by Rand » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:07 pm

pitsandmounds wrote:I was reading about the hike to Ramsey Cascades on various websites, and ran across this comment. What a great problem to have!
To me the end was not worth it only because there was a large tree blocking most of the water fall.
- Matt
Huh. With just a bit of adventuresome clambering about on the rocks below the falls one can get decent pictures:
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The other visitor was probably put off by the sign with a running tally of how many people have died trying to climb on the falls (It'd be such a nuisance to change the sign)

Anyway a few other pictures of the hike:
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Re: Ramsey Cascades, GSMNP

Post by bbeduhn » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:33 am

Rand,
Fantastic shot of the big tulips! I didn't make it all the way to the falls last time. I want to measure the big maples some time. Apparently, there is a trail that goes to the top of the falls and a bit beyond. That's where the deaths have occurred.
Brian

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