Alaska's Big Tree List!

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Don
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Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Don » Tue May 04, 2010 7:53 pm

WNTS/ENTS members-
By going to http://www.akbigtreelist.org you will find the Alaska Big Tree List, Alaska's contribution to big tree lovers and American Forests State by State listing of big trees...the URL above is my webpage (assembled and activated by Ken Winterberger), with connections of course to WNTS and ENTS! as well as other sites of interest to dendrophiles.
I'm particularly pleased with our linking to Virginia Tech's excellent tree species graphics (found by clicking on "DENDRO") and species range maps (found by clicking on "SPECIES RANGE").
Please feel free to comment, suggest additions, favorites, etc., as it's meant to be educative across a wide array of users, and interactive to permit the joys of exploration!
Don Bertolette - President/Moderator, WNTS BBS
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View my Alaska Big Tree List Webpage at:
http://www.akbigtreelist.org

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by dbhguru » Thu May 06, 2010 5:57 am

Don,

Congratulations. Looks good. Also, I look forward to working with you on the measurement guide. We are going to have a full plate in Durango.

Bob
Robert T. Leverett
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Co-founder and President
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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Rory » Thu May 06, 2010 11:50 am

Don,

Does that mean if I find a new champ hundreds of miles from the nearest road this summer, you will be out there within the next week to check my measurements?

Rory

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Don » Thu May 06, 2010 4:39 pm

Rory-
Better make that before August when Rhonda and I are off to Yellowknife, NWT!
Actually, veteran of the ENTS/WNTS forum, you'd become an official volunteer, taking ENTS/WNTS quality measurements, photos, GPS coordinates and include them in the nomination form, that was then delivered to The Sleeping Lady's deck on a day clear enough to see the top half of Denali while we watched the bottom half of our steins disappear...;>)
Don Bertolette - President/Moderator, WNTS BBS
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Grand Canyon National Park

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View my Alaska Big Tree List Webpage at:
http://www.akbigtreelist.org

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Larry Tucei » Fri May 07, 2010 12:07 pm

Don, Good job! Great photos on that site! I've never been to Alaska it looks fantastic. Perhaps someday I'll be lucky enough to go there! Larry

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by tsharp » Fri May 07, 2010 1:54 pm

Don: Congratulations for tackling the effort to get the Alaska State list up to snuff. I especially liked your inclusive links to pertinent tree information.
Nowadays, whenever i look at a big tree list want to know their measurement standards, especially for height. Do you plan to elaborate on this? I could not find a link to ENTS. If it is there it needs to be made more prominent. Out of curiosity do you plan to have co=champions that fall within a certain point spread?
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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by edfrank » Fri May 07, 2010 2:23 pm

Don,

You should include links to the Eastern Native Tree Society website, the Western Native Tree Society website, and the ENTS BBS.

I would include a link to the Tree Measuring Guidelines of the Eastern Native Tree Society also.
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measur ... evised.pdf

Yes you are creating a list based upon the American Forest criteria, but there is no reason not to be promoting a higher standard of measurement where possible. Using this better methodology is fine because these results are also acceptible to American Forests. You should be encouraging and promoting the ENTS/WNTS laser based methodology on your website, even if you are not excluding trees measured by other methods.

I would recommend the approach to tree measurement guidelines taken by Scott Wade in his PA Big Trees site:
http://www.pabigtrees.com/

PA Big Tree Measurement Pages:
http://www.pabigtrees.com/trees/measurement.htm (although the first link to the ENTS measurement Guidelines is the older version instead of the newest version of the guidelines)

I would also add an expanded section on measurement for those interested patterned after the one on Scott's website. The longer explanation of measuring tree height (linked to Scott's main measurement page) is found here:
http://www.pabigtrees.com/trees/measure ... _notes.htm

The height discussion is particlarly brilliant (because I wrote it) dealing with the stick method. I would add the spoke method for crown spread to the expanded measurement description section.

Ed Frank


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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Don » Sat May 08, 2010 1:17 am

Thanks, ya all!
I and my friend labored on and off for almost two weeks to get it up in time for a State SAF presentation...lots of old foresters there who I'm hoping to get leads for some of the old champs!
Thanks Larry for the compliments on photos, they were tree (mostly) photos snapped in passing while Rhonda and I traipsed around Anchorage and nearby locations.
Thanks Ed, for your suggestions, and yes I like Scott Wade's stuff too. We're going to wait a month, gather more ideas and comments, and revise accordingly...we put it together to make the presentation deadline, now we're looking more long term. I am eager to expand the gallery, and specifically with tree images of new list nominees, champs as they come in...
Bob/Ed- Yes I know you guys want me to be a stronger advocate, but my first step was to get things up and running. Durango will be critical for a AK version of the WNTS/ENTS Measuring Guide.
And Turner, thanks for your kind words!
Don Bertolette - President/Moderator, WNTS BBS
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Grand Canyon National Park

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View my Alaska Big Tree List Webpage at:
http://www.akbigtreelist.org

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by Don » Sat May 08, 2010 1:30 am

Uhmmm, there are two links at the bottom of the webpage, one ENTS, one WNTS...they take the clicker to the older ENTS/WNTS webpages...I'm afraid that the new BBS view might scare some of the curious folks away...guess I could do both...
Don Bertolette - President/Moderator, WNTS BBS
Restoration Forester (Retired)
Science Center
Grand Canyon National Park

BJCP Apprentice Beer Judge

View my Alaska Big Tree List Webpage at:
http://www.akbigtreelist.org

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Re: Alaska's Big Tree List!

Post by dbhguru » Sat May 08, 2010 10:04 am

Don,

Me thinks there is a correlation coefficient of 1.00 between your desire for liquid refreshment and the documenting of a new tree or forest site. Use either as the independent variable.

Someone should design a mug/stein/glass in the form of a tree - maybe n upside down conifer. There's room for ingenuity here. Could be a WNTS thing. How do you go about getting custom designed mugs?

Bob
Robert T. Leverett
Co-founder, Native Native Tree Society
Co-founder and President
Friends of Mohawk Trail State Forest
Co-founder, National Cadre

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