Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

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Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by edfrank » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:31 pm

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From: The Australian
September 10, 2011 12:00AM
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AT least two miracles have saved Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine - the world's oldest clonal tree - from destruction.

Discovered in 1995 by forestry worker Mike Peterson, the ancient Huon Pine has marched its way over more than a hectare, down a hill towards the Lake Johnston glacial lake, reproducing genetically identical male copies - clones - of itself. While the oldest individual tree or stem on the site now may be 1000 to 2000 years old, the organism itself has been living there continuously for 10,500 years.
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Re: Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by jamesrobertsmith » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:46 pm

Tasmania's a very strange place. I hope to get there before I croak.

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Re: Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by Marcboston » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:09 am

I thought the Pando grove is older than this stand?

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Re: Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by edfrank » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:49 am

Marc,

You posted one of the slide shows by Rachel Sussman on the world's oldest living things. There were a number of clonal colonies older than 10,000 years shown in that series or other ones posted in response. Pando may be the oldest tree-clone-colony but these Huon Pines are still pretty cool.

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Re: Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by JustinBrown » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:57 am

Wow! What a beautiful tree. It is such a miracle!

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Re: Tasmania's 10,500-year-old stand of Huon Pine

Post by Don » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:50 pm

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
In my read and viewing of the video, I felt like I needed more than the claims made there, and hope to contact "the scientists..." that the narrator referred to.
For one thing, they mentioned a 3500 year dendrochronological match which is a fairly solid way of proving continuous occupation, but in fact, not one had all those years intact. There was reported to be another kind of pine that was a 1000 years old, presumably based on increment boring evidence.
I think the recent (in the big picture, less than 50 years I'd say have folks been talking of aging clones, which at best are estimates/extrapolations) spate of clones need to compete with each other, and separately from living trees. You know, like apples and rutabagas...
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