Can anyone ID this tree, please?

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Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by volcanomike » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:46 pm

Hello,
I just got back from Colombia, Peru, Brazil, and Ecuador, and saw this very cool tree a few places, from the Amazon to the Andean highlands at around 5,000'. This photo was taken in Manizales, Colombia, in the Andean Highlands at around 5,000' in the "Coffee Triangle" region.
Thanks for any help!
Mike McGuire, New Jersey
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Marcboston
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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by Marcboston » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:25 am

Monkey Puzzle Tree. They are really cool.

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by edfrank » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:54 am

I don't believe it is a Monkey Puzzle Tree - the leaves are not right, and the branching structure of the Monkey Puzzle Tree (Araucaria araucana) is much more open.

Unidentified Tree - close-up of leaves:
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Monkey Puzzle Tree leaves:
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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by Steve Galehouse » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:46 pm

Norfolk Island pine, Araucaria excelsa,
every plant is native somewhere

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by Joe » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:16 pm

Steve Galehouse wrote:Norfolk Island pine, Araucaria excelsa,
cool- I've always wondered where they are native too- I've got a nice one that's now right up to the ceiling
Joe

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by RyanLeClair » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:32 pm

Yes, it does look like Norfolk Island Pine. NIP is endemic to a tiny island located between New Zealand and Australia. This species has almost no tolerance for cold, so the Colombian mountains pictured here must be unusually warm.

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by edfrank » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:54 pm

Steve,

Looks like you have a winner!!

Norfolk Island Pine, Star Pine (Araucaria heterophylla)
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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by Marcboston » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:29 pm

I first thought it was a Norfolk island Pine but they are not all that cold tolerant. There was no detail for the foliage that is why I guessed a Monkey Puzzle.

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by Marcboston » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:31 pm

Now that I blew up the picture I fully agree that it is a Norfolk Island Pine.

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Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please?

Post by volcanomike » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Wow, that was fast! Thanks guys! Yes, the mountains in this area are more mild in temperature, it does get cool at night, but no where near freezing. This is near Nevado del Ruiz volcano (where it does get very cold) but lower in elevation. I too at first thought it might be a Monkey Puzzle tree but I wasn't sure. I guess it's not surprising this one's not a native species. There is nothing else quite like it in that area and there was never really more than one at any location. I do have some close ups of the foliage from when I was photographing birds on the trees and it is a dead on match for the Norfolk Island Pine.
Thanks again for the help!
Mike McGuire, New Jersey

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