Biogradska Gora – two new broadleaf tree height records

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#21)  Re: Biogradska Gora – two new broadleaf tree height records

Postby edfrank » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:23 pm

NTS,


I have copied the relevant posts from Micheal's initial question onward to a new thread under the topic title:

Percent Cylinder Occupation  
http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=235&t=4999

under this forum:  
Measurement ‹ Measurement and Dendromorphometry

I would like to see the more general discussion posted there rather than taking this topic off track further.

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#22)  Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby KoutaR » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm

Ed,

Many thanks for the data you provided. I think with your and Will's data we got the best possible answer to my original question. For higher accuracy and reliability, we would need much more measurements of "our" spruce. I did not mean to accuse you of the math error. I make for sure more such errors than you.

Michael & Jeroen, should we actually give a name to the spruce? "Biogradska Giant"? Or can only western real giants be "Giants"?

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#23)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby Michael J Spraggon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:02 pm

I agree Kouta. I make errors too - I was just being light-hearted about it!

What to call this tree is your decision of course, being the discoverer. Maybe some reference to the confluence or two rivers?

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#24)  Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby edfrank » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:33 pm

The Michael J. Spraggon Memorial Tree.  Of course that means the end of Michael....
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#25)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby Michael J Spraggon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:39 pm

Is this about the mathematical error comment? I was only joking - please don't kill me!!!
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#26)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby KoutaR » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:08 pm

Michael J Spraggon wrote:Maybe some reference to the confluence or two rivers?


Michael,

Can you give me one of a few concrete suggestions. I cannot cook anything up from the confluence. The smaller river has no name.

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#27)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby Michael J Spraggon » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:10 pm

How about 'Bell Bottom', given all of the discussion about its flared base?
(Look up bell bottom trousers and you'll see the similarity.)

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#28)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby Jeroen Philippona » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:19 pm

I vote for 'Kouta's Bell Bottom Spruce' as Kouta found the tree. We can reserve 'Michael's Monster' for the Trsteno Plane and 'Michaels Sieg'       as a second name for the Sgerm Spruce.

When using the formula and 40% cylindre occupation the two largest Abies alba of Biogradska and Perucica as well as the largest spruce of Perucica also could be around 40 m3.

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#29)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby KoutaR » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:49 am

I don't like "Bell Bottom" because it is an English expression and I have difficulties to translate it to any other language although I understand the meaning. But if you both vote for it, I accept it. But definitely without my name. It is not my or our tree.

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#30)  Re: Percent Cylinder Occupation

Postby edfrank » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:28 pm

Michael,

I wish you many years of successful tree exploration.  You are free to name the tree anything you want.  You could do a geographic based name and simply call it the  Biogradska Giant, if you prefer not to have your name on the tree.

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