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#1)  Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby edfrank » Fri May 11, 2012 2:39 pm

Counting a multitrunk tree as a champion is like super-gluing two fat guys together and calling the combined pair the new champion fat guy.

For size comparisons it is important to compare like things to like things. If you mix both single and multitrunk trees together you are mixing different things. A tree for champion purposes needs to be defined as a single trunk, meaning it has a single pith at ground level. Multitrunk trees are worth measuring and documenting, but they should not be lumped together with single trunk trees for comparison purposes.

If you start talking about tree genetics and growing from the same root, then that begins a myriad of complexities that make the situation even worse. Two trunks from a rootstock may be genetically the same, but so are all of the clonal trees in colonies like the Pando Aspen Colony. Since they are all genetically the same and may be interconnected through the roots, should a tape be wrapped around all 47,000 stems covering 106 acres and call that the girth? In multitrunk trees there typically is a pinched section of bark between the trunks, clearly indicating they are separate trunks.

It is better in both practical terms and conceptually to define a tree as a single stem, even if the larger organism may have multiple trunks. The examples of unusual multitrunk specimens, trees like banyans, clonal colonies, self grafted series, fallen trees with limbs sprouting, etc. should certainly be documented, but each on their own merits, rather than lumping them in with measurements of single trunks.

If there was one aspect I would want to see cleaned up in champion tree lists, it is the persistent inclusion of multitrunk trees.  They should not be on lists that are designed to compare the biggest individual - read single trunk - trees.  This is something that could be resolved with better adherence to a champion guidelines that specifies single trunk trees only.  I would even be in favor of a separate list for multitrunk trees, or trees with other unusual forms, but the two categories should not be mixed.

This something that can be fixed on champion tree lists.  Multitrunk trees should be removed from consideration.  This action does not require any expensive equipment on the part of those people measuring the tree.  It does not require any special knowledge on the part of the measurers.  It does not exclude anyone interested in measuring trees from the process.  It would assure the integrity of the lists and reward people who find the actual giants of a tree species, rather than game playing by people who would nominate unworthy multitrunk trees as champions.  Nothing annoys me as much with champion tree programs as allowing multitrunk trees to be included in the same listing category as single trunk trees.

There are examples of individuals or groups of individuals using faulty tangent based height measurement processes simply because these have yielded taller heights than more reliable sine top/sine bottom laser rangefinder/clinometer  measurements available to them, but these are examples of cheating on the part of these individuals rather than a problem.  with the champion program itself.

Will Blozan recently posted some examples of multitrunk trees:          

               
                       
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Ohio champion cottonwood

And here are some pith trace examples:

               
                       
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Ohio champion sycamore
                             
               
                       
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Seven sisters live oak clump

The pith lines need to merge before ground level for something to be considered a single trunk tree.  If there is more than one pith line at ground level it is a multitrunk tree.  If there is only one pith at ground level, then it is a single trunk tree.  Low branches could come out below 4.5 feet, but above the ground level and the tree still be a single trunk tree.

In the tree measuring guidelines, (all three of the documents, the original version, the one published in the Bulletin, and the updated version)  NTS SP #1a  Tree Measuring Guideline of the Eastern Native Tree Society -Revised  http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/Tree_Measuring_Guidelines-revised1.pdf Will Blozan writes:

"I use a “pith test” to define what a multitrunk tree is. If the tree has more than one pith at ground level it is a multiple-stemmed tree. Note I did not say 4.5 feet above the ground. This is because the 4.5 foot height is a forestry standard and is an arbitrary and convenient place for most people to measure a tree. Some trees, like flowering dogwood or rhododendrons, may branch well below 4.5 feet but have a single pith at ground level. In the case of such trees, I would measure the narrowest point below the lowest fork. More detailed discussions of how to measure multitrunk trees and trees with other odd forms is presented on the ENTS website."

As for the question of whether a particular tree is a double or single trunk, there will be arguments between experienced measurers about whether a particular tree is a double or a single.  Many old doubles have grown together so that the trunk is regular in form and on the face of everything no longer appear to be doubles.  The opposite situation s where there is a large low protruding branch.  If the tree and branch grow large enough, the low branch appears to look much like a second trunk.  When faced by wind and weather it is possible that these may split along the attachment line to look as if they are two trunks.  In many cases there is sufficient doubt that the only way to know for sure would be to cut the tree down at ground level and see what the cross section shows.

Some people consider it being conservative to consider something a double if they can't tell for sure otherwise.  I think this corrupts the data set more so than an occasional misclassified tree.  For anyone measuring trees in the field, I would recommend they make detailed  observations in the field, and then go with the best guess as to whether the tree is a single or double, and report that.  Field inspection trumps photos except in the most egregious examples.  This is not to say that if someone else goes out and looks at the tree will reach the same conclusion, but we hope so.  Measurers should try to build in their mind characteristics that might distinguish singles from double or multitrunk trees, and apply these mental lists to what they are seeing in the field.

We are not defining whether something is a single or multitrunk tree based on genetics.  The multitrunk tree may be growing from the same root mass and have identical DNA in all of its trunks.  For measurement purposes we are classifying a multitrunk tree as a different measurement category than a single trunk tree because of its growth pattern, not because of different genetics.  There may be some cases where there actually are two different specimens of the same species of tree growing together to form a fused mass, but these would be I would guess an extremely rare circumstance.  There are occasional examples of two different species growing together - the Hugging Trees in the multitrunk tree classification scheme I previously proposed http://www.nativetreesociety.org/multi/index_multi.htm.  I would expect that hugging trees of different species would be more common than two different trees from the same species. In any case these should not be considered in the same measurement category as single trunk trees.

Are we becoming splitters or lumpers when it comes to tree measurements?  I think I am a splitter as needed to maintain what I see as a valid data set.  I want to make sure the big tree lists maintain an internal integrity.  On the other hand, I have championed the idea that we should be collecting data on multitrunk trees and trees of other weird forms.  That was the point of the article I wrote: Multitrunk Trees, Woody Vines, and Other Forms:  http://www.nativetreesociety.org/multi/index_multi.htm  I want to include these other forms in our dataset, even if they are not the idealized single trunk model and have proposed ways to measure them.  The columns for inclusion of multitrunk trees are in the spreadsheet I wrote, and I have been working with Mitch Galehouse in his implementation of the NTS Trees database so that the multitrunk specimens can be properly recorded.  So I would counter that you can be both a splitter and also be pushing for a broader inclusion and representation in the dataset.  

There needs to be a balance between lumping and splitting when looking at sets of data.  If you lump too many things together then they become a mish-mash of different objects that lack a coherent theme that is useful for expanding your understanding of the set.  If there is too much splitting, then each individual is its own class and you can't look at relationships between objects as easily.  So really I don't think it is a matter of splitters versus lumpers.  We are splitting the data only to the degree needed to make it useful, and further lumping would only hurt the overall goals. I want to keep records for and acknowledge the superlatives of the different forms, but see it as a detriment to mix different form trees together in a single list.

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#2)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby Don » Sun May 13, 2012 12:02 am

Ed-
I find much to agree with in your comments in the above post, revisiting the issue of single versus multi-trunk champion candidates.  You've done a great job of assembling images with pith lines, diameter locations for examples.

But I'm thinking we differ a little with what to do with those pesky multi-stemmers.  I too believe that single stemmers should be in their own category.  However, I'm of the opinion that there are some REALLY impressive multi-stemmers out there, and they need respect to.  Just not in the single stemmer field. Part of the solution would be to have a second column, for multi-stemmers.

But the real conundrum here is parity. How does one treat both categories fairly.  While many are quick to toss forestry traditions aside, for whatever reasons, note that American Forests have chosen to take three measurements to determine 'bigness'.  The first two, girth and height, which are two parts of a formula that can be used to determine a quantity of 'bigness', albeit a derivative, volume. The crown spread is a visual thing, as a crown's largeness in its full foliar stage is certainly one of the things a viewer considers in assessing 'bigness'.

For me, the underlying assumption for measuring the diameter/girth, is that girth is a measure that can be used to approximate volume, for any given height. Yes I know, not all trees are perfectly round, nor cylindrical, but for the sake of argument, let's say they are.

To take the diameter/girth measurement of a multi-stem of the Ohio Champion sycamore, as shown in the above photo would only approach a gross approximation of the volume of the first five feet, where certainly there is a massive amount of wood. To project volume, that is greatly diminished above five foot, based on the cbh/dbh would be naught but pure folly.

Better to take girth measurements above the fork and just above the swelling caused by the forking, for each of the boles, then project volumes based on an average of the three boles, whatever their heights were. Cognizant of the goal to obtain a girth, an average of the three bole girths would be a much, much better approximation of the Ohio Champion sycamore.

Where we run into problems is with very large trees, so large that we humans just don't have the dimensions to physically measure them.  But that's another topic, with a more 'remote' solution.  

I hope that this dialogue you and I are having, will prompt others to further comment and refine, this sure to become a bigger issue in the future.
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#3)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby edfrank » Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 am

Don,

I have always thought that multitrunk trees deserve measurement and consideration.  I had this discussion at my first NTS event, before I ever became a member with Colby Rucker.  The point I was making here is that single and multitrunk trees should be a separate category.  For multitrunk trees I don't really think the girth is a representation of volume as it is in single trunk trees.  They are so varied in form that one measurement doesn't even come close to characterizing them as a group.  For these multitrunk trees I think girth is more like a "beauty contest" where the meaning is simply about appearance of size of the tree rather than an analog for size.  Your comments about measuring above the mergers would I am sure be a better approximation of size.

The Da Vinci sequence http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=3271  "Expressed mathematically, Leonardo’s rule says that if a branch with diameter (D) splits into an arbitrary number (n) of secondary branches of diameters (d1, d2, et cetera), the sum of the secondary branches’ diameters squared equals the square of the original branch’s diameter. Or, in formula terms: D2 = ∑di2, where i = 1, 2, … n. For real trees, the exponent in the equation that describes Leonardo’s hypothesis is not always equal to 2 but rather varies between 1.8 and 2.3."

The argument made above is that the Ohio champion cottonwood and Ohio champion sycamore should not be considered champions at all because they are multitrunk trees.  I am not disagreeing with your main point, but what I suggested was designed as a shorthand for a more the more complex problem that could be applied to all of the multitrunk trees.  

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#4)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby brentss » Mon May 14, 2012 11:57 am

All,
I am having a difficult time finding any literature on the cause of multitrunk stems in eastern deciduous forests. All I can find are articles on Clark's Nutcracker in western pines. Does anyone know of any relevant articles? I am specifically interested in white oak/chestnut oak. Thanks,
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#5)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby edfrank » Mon May 14, 2012 5:43 pm

Brent,

The main cause of multitrunk trees is them being broken or cut off at or near ground level, then resprouting from the stump roots.  They are much more common in areas that have been logged for just this reason.  In old growth areas, they are comparatively rare.  The exceptions might be trees in flood plains, like sycamores and silver maples who are frequently damaged by flood debris during spring floods.  This can initiate the formation of multiple trunks.  Also heavy browsing by deer or other herbivores can also "cut" the trees causing the formation of multiple trunks.  There are many possible processes, but these are the most common.  I hope someone else will be able to provide you with a citable reference about the formation of multitrunk trees.

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#6)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby mdvaden » Tue May 15, 2012 10:35 pm

The tree below would have a central pith or growth ring common to all the reiterated stems or trunks. This tree would be no different, than another spruce which broke at 150 feet and reiterated from that height on upward.

Both trees would be big, both would be similar ---- neither would need to classified differently.

The real comparison would probably be improved simply my measuring wood volume.

The idea of needing a single stem for a being a champion tree, would almost require than candidates never sprouted more trunks higher up in the canopy.
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#7)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby edfrank » Tue May 15, 2012 11:09 pm

Mario,

Nice to hear from you on this matter.  Some distinction needs to be made so that a multitrunk tree with several relatively small individual trunks is not considered to be a champion rather than a truly massive single trunk tree.  To some degree this is a beauty contest.  Most people who are out hunting big trees are not going to do volume measurements.  It is difficult enough to get them do measure girth ad height correctly.  The distinction must be made at some point to either base the champion list upon collection of reasonably applied guidelines and criteria or to allow it to be just garbage made of random measurements.  The best position to make the distinction between multitrunk trees and single trunk trees is whether or not they have a single pith at ground level.  Massive reiterations and secondary trunks up in the canopy are all part of the same tree and sprout from branches or other trunks.  Multitrunk trees where the trunks sprout directly from roots form differently and are not the same thing as reiterations in the canopy.  If your pictured tree has a single pith at ground level, there is no reason that it could not be a champion tree.  the girth would be measured at the narrowest point below the branching.  If that is at ground level - fine.

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#8)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby Don » Wed May 16, 2012 1:39 am

Mario-
I am trying to fathom how that tree began.  Do you have any theories?
-Don


mdvaden wrote:The tree below would have a central pith or growth ring common to all the reiterated stems or trunks. This tree would be no different, than another spruce which broke at 150 feet and reiterated from that height on upward.

Both trees would be big, both would be similar ---- neither would need to classified differently.

The real comparison would probably be improved simply my measuring wood volume.

The idea of needing a single stem for a being a champion tree, would almost require than candidates never sprouted more trunks higher up in the canopy.
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#9)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby mdvaden » Wed May 16, 2012 10:44 am

Don wrote:Mario-
I am trying to fathom how that tree began.  Do you have any theories?
-Don


Howdy Don ...

I'm just about out the door to go do some pruning work this morning, but I do have a theory. I will cut and paste below what I wrote on my website's spruce page. There is a myth mentioned on signs and table-top brochures like in restaurants over that way, that Indians may have done it to hang canoes or for ritual. From my pruning tree care experience, and what I've seen in the woods, I think the tree explains the story itself ...

the Octopus Spruce which grows in the same area as Cape Meares Spruce. The sign for it says that the form is a mystery people have debated about. Almost certainly we cannot know for a fact what happened ... but chances are about 90% that it resulted from a simple occurance. When the Spruce was young with a trunk not much bigger than 14" to 20" in diameter, a storm snapped the trunk, or another trunk nearby fell and broke it, just above a whorl of limbs.

The extended length of the curved trunks (up to 16 feet outward) from the center, connote that it was not just 10 feet tall with 1 inch diameter branches. The branches would have to have been about 2 to 4 inches in diameter, and in relatively good health with foliage. And the branches would need to have already been about 10 to 14 feet long when the breakage occured. This also suggests something else ... that this Spruce was not in a thick grove ... probably more in the open, maybe with just a few others around it. Otherwise, in thick groves, the lower limbs die and decay fairly quickly: evident by the grove you will walk through to see this one. Just look at all the understory stubs in the shady grove.
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#10)  Re: Single trunk vs. Multitrunk Revisited

Postby edfrank » Wed May 16, 2012 11:10 am

Mario,

That explanation makes sense to me.  James Parton has posted about an octopus white pine that surely formed under similar circumstances.  One more comment regarding single trunk versus multitrunk trees in terms of champions.  Requiring that single trunk trees and multitrunk trees be considered separately when talking about champions will not fix everything. There are trees with every shape and there will be problems with whatever guidelines are chosen.  Some trees have more basal flair than others.  Some trees started out growing on a stump (like the one champion bald cypress) or have some unusual aspect to their form.  It is not a perfect solution for every situation, but separating single trunk trees from multitrunk trees on champion lists is a major improvement over lumping the two together.  

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