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Re: old growth video?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:41 pm
by Joe
Kouta, I do like your idea and I could edit the clips- I recently purchased a semi professional editing program- Cyberlink PowerDirector 13- or at least I could make an effort of it- and if anyone else could do it better, that's fine- I just want to see a really good video, someday, of old growth and specimen trees. Of course the video won't give location for trees that are not generally known to the public.

Editing clips from different people isn't likely to come out great because of the vast difference in camera quality, skills at getting the lighting right, different video formats and resolutions, etc., etc.--- but it would be fun trying- and if enough people contribute to this effort, we should all improve our skills. Perhaps a project like this could get off the ground by lots of discussion as to what the final product might look like.

If we then come up with something remotely interesting, perhaps that might interest PBS or BBC- especially if we can explain to others why protecting such forests and trees is extremely important and therefore, being able to measure them correctly is important.
Joe

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:00 am
by KoutaR
Joe,

I thought the editing would be done with youtube utilities online. If you did it with your software the members would have to send their clips to you, e.g. in a USB-stick. HD video clips are easily too big for e-mail.

At least video format and resolution should be defined in advance.

Joe, do you have your videos online, e.g. on youtube?

Kouta

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:06 am
by Joe
Kouta, I think the editing tools on YouTube are rather basic though I haven't investigated them. You're right about the size of the files- assuming people produce clips that are several minutes long. I've seen some in this forum that are very short- so I didn't think about the size issue.

I have several videos on YouTube and Vimeo. I haven't done much recently but I did spend a lot of time some years ago studying all the issues. I was active in several online video forums. I have a Canon camcorder from 2008 which uses video micro tapes and a GoPro.

I really like video work- and if I had more time, I'd spend it all doing video projects. When I bought my latest computer last fall- I bought a very, very fast system loaded with 32 gigs of RAM, a solid state drive, a very large high definition monitor, etc.... since you need a powerful computer to do serious video work.
Joe

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:28 am
by KoutaR
Joe,

You are right about Youtube tools, they are rather basic.

Could you provide a link to your videos on Youtube or Vimeo? I would like to see what kind of stuff you produce, particularly if there are forest videos. I would be interested in video making but I haven't the gadgets yet. I have done some short clips with my still camera but the quality is rather poor.

Kouta

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:01 pm
by Joe
Kouta, here's my 3 YouTube videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/JoeZorzin?feature=mhee

And my Vimeo videos are at: https://vimeo.com/user845702/videos

I also have quite a few on Vimeo which are password protected- including some experimental videos of Bob Leverett, some of me bike riding, driving my truck, kayaking and other such stuff with my GoPro. I may later send those links with passwords to you privately.

So far, not so great- but I do understand what video is all about- what I need is a lot of time to get good at it. I know good video when I see, having watched thousands of Hollywood movies, really good documentaries and countless online videos. And now that I'm streaming video with Netflix, I watch mostly documentaries every day. My dream is to do some "pretty good" video of forestry work (my profession since 1973)- and, some of old growth forests.

A few years ago I bought a Flycam stabilizer but haven't had the time to use it- that would allow walking through the forest and getting some almost steady video. I've tried walking in the forest with a GoPro and it just doesn't look good- since the GoPro doesn't have built in stabilizing the way my Canon camcorder does. I have a Manfrotto professional quality tripod with a video head and I've found that's essential for clear video.

I'm 65, but not living in an advanced European nation, I can't afford to retire- being self employed, I have no pension- if I could retire, I'd spend most of my time advancing my video skills to the level of professional documentarian.
Joe

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:24 am
by KoutaR
Looks fine, Joe! I think an old-growth video of this quality would have value.

The horse logging demo was particularly interesting.

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:14 am
by PAwildernessadvocate
I have an old VHS tape titled "Old Growth Forests: Pennsylvania's Forgotten Giants" by the Pennsylvania Wild Resource Conservation Fund. It is a 29 minute video. I haven't watched it in a long time, but remember it covering Cook Forest, the Tionesta & Hearts Content old-growth stands in the Allegheny National Forest, and other old growth areas further to the east.

I might be able to dub it to a DVD then download it to my computer and make a YouTube video out of it.

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:22 am
by Joe
PAwildernessadvocate wrote:I have an old VHS tape titled "Old Growth Forests: Pennsylvania's Forgotten Giants" by the Pennsylvania Wild Resource Conservation Fund. It is a 29 minute video. I haven't watched it in a long time, but remember it covering Cook Forest, the Tionesta & Hearts Content old-growth stands in the Allegheny National Forest, and other old growth areas further to the east.

I might be able to dub it to a DVD then download it to my computer and make a YouTube video out of it.
Please do- I'd loved to see it. I think it may take some time before we can figure out how to come up with a great (awesome and world class) old growth video but looking at whatever is already available will help generate ideas.
Joe

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:31 am
by PAwildernessadvocate
It worked! Video's up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlrXEJh5bEQ

I hope the PA Wild Resource Conservation Fund doesn't mind that I uploaded this. If you're reading this, what do you think Dale?

EDIT: I have now written to the PA Wild Resource Conservation Fund to ask for formal permission to post this video publicly.

Re: old growth video?

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:21 am
by Joe
Nice video- very nice! Very professional. Now what would be nice, a video like this but telling the story of old growth across the nation- while, of course, telling the story of the people who measure old/big trees. In the credits I can see that many people worked on this- to do a video on the old growth of the nation would be a much bigger project. Perhaps NTS could get a grant in order to hire top video professionals.

How did you get it on to DVD? Can you give us the URL on YouTube? The embedded version can't be expanded to fill the screen.
Joe