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Armeggedon

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:25 pm
by ryandallas
If the experts are to be believed, we're racing full-speed toward catastrophic ecological collapse. The time frame isn't millennia, or even centuries. It's decades--and maybe as little as one decade.

What to do?

I'm trying to find some land, become self-sufficient, and hunker down before the sky falls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBs20XM ... tml5=False

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywK9KXZ ... tml5=False

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:49 pm
by ryandallas
Having reread my initial post, I think I should elaborate.

A) You, my fellow Ents, have sustained what little optimism I've felt. I love you all and am indebted to you. We made a valiant effort, but alas, there simply are too few of "us" and too many of "them".

B) Even though I posted those apocalyptic lyrics, I am decidedly NOT yearning for the coming collapse, which will not be pleasant for animals and humans alike.

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:36 am
by jclarke
Part of the problem is that there are so many of us and only only planet. If we each wanted a little less, it would help. I don't mean we should all aim for 1000 kilowatt hours per person per day, but we could take 10 percent off the load on the grid by using 10 percent less electricity.
In the developed world, there is too much of everything and a big push by marketing to buy stuff. If you have a french press coffee maker, and a drip filter coffee maker and a perc coffee maker, do you really NEED the single cup pod coffee maker?
Many public places grow prickley ornamentals, and could be growing fruits. The kitchen garden seems to have fallen out of favor, perhaps because both parents work, but perhaps because of lack of knowledge on how to grow food. Marketing has done a good job teaching us stuff is "hard" to grow, so that we will buy started nursery stock or grocery store foods. Like peaches? Put some peach seeds in a bag of damp dirt and leave them in the porch for the winter to freeze and thaw. Start checking about now for sprouting, grin. It really is that easy, but of course, garden centres can't make money that way. Peaches come more or less true to seed. Like high bush blueberries, same thing, only sow the seeds shallowly on peat and cover with a thin layer of more peat and also ignore them in the porch for the winter.......these would grow in many city yards, but don't. It's not just food either, lots of things we could do for ourselves, even in a city. There are walnuts at the Experimental farm, but no one picks them, don't know what they are or how to use them unless they are in the baking isle in the store.

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:06 am
by Rand
If you are into the permaculture angle, here is a site that specializes in selling nut trees:

http://www.nuttrees.com/other_edible.htm

Its worth a browse just for the pictures, especially the hybrid oaks.

http://geofflawton.com
Big permaculture proponent. Entering your email address to access the free videos is worth the moderate spammage that ensues.

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:25 am
by jclarke
I have a lot of nut trees now, and am running out of room. Never met a seed I didn't like, grin.
I still have room in the woods though, and am planting sweet chestnut and beech (american chestnut), and may plant more hazelnuts. I want to find out if beaked hazel makes nuts with Het3, don't know yet. Will have to plant a single beaked one on the home place and see if it makes nuts.

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:45 am
by jclarke
Thanks for the links. I have some stuff from Rhora's nursery. The nut pines are very productive, but skip the innoculent. I just dug up a bucket of soil from the woods for the planting holes and they are doing fine. Nuts are VERY tasty. I've got a few more from seeds (Sheffield's) coming up in the porch to increase the grove. They seem to be very easy to start. Related trees may have reduced nut set together, so it's good to buy in unrelated seed to go with the ones from your own trees when you want more of them. Just plant some of yours and some from bought seeds in the same area. they do grow slow at first though. Faster later, after 4 or 5 years to get their feet under them.

Re: Armeggedon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:45 pm
by ryandallas
I kind of regret starting this thread. I have my moments, but I'm usually not the best communicator. Such a delicate topic doesn't belong in hands as indelicate as mine.

I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Please do what you can to help yourself.