Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 2010

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Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 2010

Post by gnmcmartin » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:30 pm

Noteworthy white oak tree (Quercus alba) at Carter Hall, Millwood VA, April 25, 2010

This tree is notable for its trunk diameter, but much more noteworthy because of its overall form and spread. This white oak has a form that seems more typical of live oak (Quercus virginiana).

Here are the dimensions:

20’ 6” CBH (76.5” DBH)

Height 75’

Spread: I did not attempt to calculate an average or to make an accurate plot, but I measured the length of several of its large branches. These were in 70.5’, 70.5’, 67.5’, 55.5’, 71.5’, there was one very long branch I couldn’t measure because it extended over a wall and over adjacent private property. This branch appeared to be longer than the others. The maximum spread was probably in excess of 147’.

The diameter of the lowest branch about three feet from the trunk was 30" Several other branches appeared larger.

The tree appeared to be growing on a limestone outcrop, portions of which were visible above the soil around the tree. The property of Carter Hall includes a number of large open-grown white oak trees, of which about 6 or 8 are over 60” DBH. This tree was different from all the others in its wide spread relative to its height.

Here is a series of pictures of this tree:
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Here is a picture of one of the other fine white oaks at Carter Hall. This tree was 59" DBH and 94' tall:
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Re: Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 201

Post by dbhguru » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:34 pm

Gaines,

An incredible tree. It reminds me of the Granby Oak. Looks very similar.

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Re: Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 201

Post by James Parton » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:02 pm

Gaines,

I forget that White Oak can get this big. If it were a Live Oak it would qualify for Larry's Live Oak Project. It's a whopper for a White Oak!

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Re: Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 201

Post by Larry Tucei » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:55 am

Gaines, Beautiful White Oak! Awesome spread! White Oak has long been may favorite Oak after Live Oak. I've never seen one with that great of spread. Scott Wade has posted about many such Whites on the old site we had. The largest White Oak that I've ever seen was in central Ala., with a 4' Dia. Most of the White Oaks in the South have been cut long before they attain maturity. In the forests of central Ms., there are almost pure stands of White Oaks in the 80 yr range. I must get back up to New England to see the Great White Oaks, White Pines and such. Larry

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Re: Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 201

Post by gnmcmartin » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:49 am

ENTS:

I neglected to describe just where on the Carter Hall estate the tree is. As you enter the front gate, keep to the left and drive towards the administration building--you will be heading basically north. As the dirve turns to the left (east) after a couple hundred yards or so, the tree is right there to the right of the drive. Described another way, the tree is about 100 yards or so west of the administration building parking lot.


The Carter Hall estate, a famous historical location in VA, is now the property of Project Hope. I am not sure what kind of regular access the public now has. If anyone wants to see the estate/grounds, and this tree, it may be a good idea to call ahead. I had access last weekend because one of the houses on the property--not the Carter Hall mansion itself--was open for the Clarke County house and garden tour.

It just so happens that the great White oak tree at Carter Hall is right across the road (VA route 255) From the nice white oak tree I featured in a previous post on the old Google Groups site--the one in front of the Millwood Episcopal Church. I need to re-measure this tree--I have reason to think I made some errors when I measured it previously. I will post my pic again here:
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Quite a coincidence to have these two great trees growing essentially right next to each other. They are the two finest White oaks I have yet seen in VA. And they are growing with such different forms.

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Re: Notable white oak tree at Carter Hall, VA, April 25, 201

Post by jamesrobertsmith » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:53 pm

Yow! That first tree is amazing!!!

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