PEI woods

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jclarke
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PEI woods

Post by jclarke » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:28 am

Yes, there has definately been lots of highgrading of the PEI woodlots. My own family is as guilty as any, grin.
To add insult to injury, our woods burnt in 1945 and has since come up in white spruce, poplars of assorted kinds, and only a few black birch
and balsam fir. Still, the fire didn't jump the brook, and there are still some red spruces to seed in. My dad took me planting acorns the year I was 3,
and I have planted lots more since.....me or the squirrels. One year I dumped out a nearly full 5 gallon bucket of red oaks acorns and hid and watched the squirrels gather them all over the span of an hour. Lots of little red oaks that fall to put mouse guards on. There are a few bog birch, some pin cherry, lots of american chestnut, some yellow birch (planted), some tamarack and lately, some beech and western red cedar (planted). Understoreystuff is not bad now, some elderberries, some blue bead lily, some mayflowers, that kind of stuff....some blueberries and rhodadendrons.

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Rand
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Re: PEI woods

Post by Rand » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:01 am

Kinda surprising that just stuffing acorns in the grass actually works. In my case I planted about a dozen white oak acorns around my 'tree patch'. White oak is fairly rare in that location and absent from the adjacent woodlot. At the time it was mostly fescue and waist high goldenrod, so there was no way I'd see them come up, so I promptly forgot about them. About 7 years later I was wandering through, and belatedly noticed a shoulder high white oak that had made it through the gauntlet.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by Lucas » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:14 am

jclarke wrote: only a few black birch
As in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betula_lenta ??
We travel the Milky way together, trees and men. - John Muir

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Re: PEI woods

Post by jclarke » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:28 pm

No, populifolia. ..... grey birch, wire birch. Also some paper birch, bog birch and maybe some yellow/white birch hybrids.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by Erik Danielsen » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:57 pm

Wow, I just had to look up birch hybridization. I had no idea about birch hybrids. Most of the literature talks about species occurring in the extreme northwest (alaska, especially) and northern europe- what is a yellow/white birch (possible) hybrid like, in terms of appearance?

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Re: PEI woods

Post by jclarke » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:00 pm

Well, the ones I suspect are hybrids are quite young. They mostly look like yellow birch, it will be a while till they get some age on them and their appearance changes as they age. I should add, that I sometimes think I know what I'm talking about, and don't, grin. I do suspect them of being hybrids though.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by wisconsitom » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm

I think we have yellow/paper birch hybrids in our woods. To wit, there are clear-cut paper birch....there are clear-cut yellow birch....But there are birch which simply look intermediate between the two, all in close proximity. I'm all about natural hybrids but to be honest, I prefer the species type to any mix that may be occurring in this case. Seems odd perhaps to have all three phases going and growing so near to each other.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by jclarke » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:35 pm

Well, with natural regeneration and both species present, you either live with any hybrids, or rogue them.
I'm kind of live and let live.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by wisconsitom » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:08 am

That's been my plan to date. If I seemed to be having a problem here in some way, that's not what I meant. Just reporting a curiosity.

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Re: PEI woods

Post by jclarke » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:37 pm

Aw, Ok. :) I notice differences, and I nibble when in the woods. Pure yellow birch tastes nice, white birch not so much and probable hybrids a bit off, odd. White elm seed can be rubbed between the hands to dewing it and eaten like sunflower seeds. Yummy....red elm, not so much. Lots of differences. :)

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