Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

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Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by wrecsvp » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:50 pm

Admired and measured the largest White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) that I've encountered, on August 14th at cliffLAND ( http://cliffland.ca/ ) , near Flower Station ON. I measured approximately 73' tall by 146" CBH (didn't measure crown spread). I see this tree sizes up well in comparison with the largest standing trees reported at South Manitou Island in 2007 by ENTS (links below). I was accompanied by naturalists Janet Mason (who showed the tree) and Arthur Goldsmith.
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... island.htm
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/specie ... edar_n.htm

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yours truly for scale (photo by Janet Mason)
yours truly for scale (photo by Janet Mason)
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Art Goldsmith for scale
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lots of cones still being produced at the top of the tree
lots of cones still being produced at the top of the tree
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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by Erik Danielsen » Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:58 am

What a gorgeous tree! And quite old no doubt. That's a lot of wood for a northern whitecedar. Is this one a bit of a loner or are there others nearby of similar form, if not quite matching its dimensions?

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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by wisconsitom » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:33 am

Heh, some sources say this tree doesn't get as big as other tree types. I say it does, but it just takes a long time for it to get there! Awesome.

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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by wrecsvp » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:41 pm

Glad you guys liked the photos and the tree. Looks to be one of the largest of its kind standing in the world.

Agree with wisconsitom: Thuja occidentalis gets big if you've got a few centuries to spare. Thuja seem to generally tend toward mass over height.

Erik: the surrounding area has many large and mature Thuja and Betula alleghaniensis, but I did not see any others approaching this one in girth. Here's Art sitting on an old Thuja occidentalis which fell down long ago and has regrown from a couple of lateral branches into a pair of ordinary full-sized trees (one is out of the frame). This is only maybe 10-20 metres from the huge Thuja
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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by Larry Tucei » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:18 am

Wow! That is one large White Cedar. Traveling to Wisconsin frequently I've seen many Cedar but nothing compared to that one. I'd be interested to know about how old that tree would be? Good photos BTW.

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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by wisconsitom » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:53 am

Larry, if ever in the NE section of the state (Wisconsin), I can offer you some general pointers about good areas to search in.

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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by Lucas » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:38 pm

We travel the Milky way together, trees and men. - John Muir

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Re: Very Large White-Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) at cliffLAND

Post by wisconsitom » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:05 am

Thanks for posting that link, Lucas. Have seen similar, including one out of Michigan that still stands out in my memory for its gloomy outlook! Authors of that one were basically saying forget it! Yet there sits the conundrum of my land, in deer-thick NE Wisconsin-where the cedar thrives like it always did. Not one mile away, I can see the usual browse line.

The depressing thing for me is that it is politics, not the resource itself, that gets in the way of reestablishing this species at its former stocking rate. And there is no better example of this very thing than this state right here, where yet another life-long politician has learned well the leverage you can get from getting people riled up about guns and hunting. We're so smart here that we could literally be looking at the loss of deer hunting as chronic wasting disease is allowed to spread through the herd, because the tactics used to control this spread, used under the former administration, were unpopular. So instead of biting the bullet (da bum-dum) and doing those things that would have been necessary to ensure the long-term viability of the herd, they elected to do nothing. With these guys, it's like it's unAmerican to care about cedar and hemlock.

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