Old Mans Cave does its best Narnia impression

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Old Mans Cave does its best Narnia impression

Post by Rand » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:17 pm

So after ~4" of fresh snow and the coldest winter in almost twenty years I figured it was high time to visit the Ice in Old Man's cave in the hocking hills. I was not disappointed:
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Post by Rand » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:35 pm

While there I also measured a few trees that were last measured in late 2008, and much to my surprise they'd grown about twice what I'd expected:

The tallest tulip went from 9' 1" x 154' to 9' 4.5" x 157'

The tallest hemlock went from 149.8' to 153.5'

A well positioned tulip on a streamside bench downhill from the tall hemlock went from 145.7 to 150'

Some pictures of the tall hemlock:
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A closeup of the top:
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Finally a fallen hemlock near cedar falls gave a ring count of ~320 @ ~ 20' in the air. The chain saw cut was pretty punky, making narrow rings difficult to distinguish in many places, so this may be a significant understatement.

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Post by Steve Galehouse » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:53 am

Rand-

Great photos! It's been at least 30 years since I've been to the Hocking Hills parks in winter; they sure take on a different aspect that time of year. The 153.5' hemlock must be the state record. There are now four species in Ohio that achieve heights of 150+': hemlock, white pine, sycamore, and tulip. I hope we get rid of some snow this upcoming week to make measuring easier.

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Post by Rand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:32 am

Steve Galehouse wrote:Rand-

I hope we get rid of some snow this upcoming week to make measuring easier.

Steve
Uhm....Yes..
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Post by AndrewJoslin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:02 pm

Great photos! I wonder if these hemlocks in Ohio are isolated enough from contiguous forest stands (with hemlock) that they will become the lone survivors of HWA infestation?

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Post by AndrewJoslin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:13 pm

Distribution of eastern hemlock in Ohio from the web site of James Dyer:

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HWA in Ohio, reported as eradicated from the sites indicated in red
http://www.agri.ohio.gov/divs/plant/caps/docs/HWAOHHistoric.pdf

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Post by Rand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:51 pm

AndrewJoslin wrote:Great photos! I wonder if these hemlocks in Ohio are isolated enough from contiguous forest stands (with hemlock) that they will become the lone survivors of HWA infestation?
I don't know. How do they primarily spread? If it's by birds, seems like being a small, isolated target would simply forestall the inevitable.

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Post by dbhguru » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:26 pm

Rand,

What a magical place!

What is the latitude of the most northerly 150-foot hemlock there in Ohio?

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Post by Rand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:21 pm

dbhguru wrote:Rand,

What a magical place!

What is the latitude of the most northerly 150-foot hemlock there in Ohio?

Bob
No GPS but I can squint at Google Earth:

~ N39.43

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Post by greenent22 » Mon May 12, 2014 11:58 pm

Why unbelievably cool!!!!!!!

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