### Liverpool School Maple Grove Dec. 28, 2015

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On this very cold, becoming cloudy afternoon (Mon., Dec. 28, 2015, Elijah Whitcomb and I visited the magnificent old growth Liverpool School Maple Grove.

We stopped by the greatest tree of all, the possible Military Tract Witness Sugar Maple, which could be the largest Sugar Maple, the largest representative of our state tree, in NY. Elijah and I made careful measurements of this tree. It is 14’3” cbh (54.43” dbh), and 119.9 ft. tall. The crown spread is 63 ft. This gives 171 AF points for circumference, 119.9 points for height, and 15.75 points for spread, for a total of 306.65 AF points. It could be the largest forest-grown Sugar Maple in NY, or even in USA. A resident of the area, who we met Nov. 8, 2015, calls this tree the “Grandfather Tree.” We like the name.

I measured a Sugar Maple (8’1” cbh, 30.9” dbh) to the north of this tree to 124.6 ft. This is in a dense group of large and tall old Sugar Maples. ( I got 123.8 ft. on this tree last year.)

Elijah measured a bigger Sugar Maple (10’6” cbh, 40.1” dbh) just north of the giant champion to a height of 127.8 ft. This is the tallest Sugar Maple we know of in NY, the tallest example of NY’s state tree in NY. Last year Elijah got 126.7 ft. on this tree. This is the tallest tree we know of in the grove.

I measured a Sugar Maple (9’ cbh, 34.4” dbh) just northwest of the tallest to 122.2 ft.

I measured a Beech (6’6” cbh, 24.8” dbh) to the northwest of this tree to 116.5 ft.

In this same area, Elijah measured a large single-trunked Sugar Maple (11’ cbh, 42” dbh) with 2 ascending leaders to 125.3 ft.

This same section contains the grove’s only tall Bitternut Hickory. Earlier Elijah measured this tree to 123.3 ft. On Dec. 28, I found another higher branch in this tree’s complex crown, and got 124.7 ft. This is the tallest Hickory we know of in northern Onondaga County.

We next came to the tree that the resident we met Nov. 8 calls the “Grandmother Tree.” It is the second largest tree in the grove, a truly ancient looking Sugar Maple with huge, gnarled buttress roots, balding bark a long ways up its burly trunk, and a crown that broke off many years ago. This tree looks even older than the larger Grandfather Tree, and could be at least 350-400 or more years old. Elijah measured a cbh of 12’4” (47.1” dbh) and height of 108 ft. He said this tree was probably taller 175 years ago.

I measured a smaller Sugar Maple (7’1” cbh, 27.1” dbh) just north of the Grandmother Tree to 114.7 ft.

A Beech (7’6” cbh, 28.6” dbh) just northwest of this Sugar Maple is 116.7 ft. tall.

Elijah measured a small leaning Basswood (6’4” cbh, 24.2” dbh) to 97.8 ft.

I measured a big Red Maple in the low-lying primeval western section of the grove to 110 ft.

We next examined the big Red Maple near the paved trail (tallest we know of in NY, that I measured to 124.9 ft. on an earlier visit). This tree has a complex crown, and we couldn’t find the highest point. Elijah measured heights of 122 ft., 120 ft., 123 ft. This is one of the most difficult trees to measure.

I measured a Sugar Maple north of the paved trail to 115.3 Next to this tree is a large Basswood with balding bark (7’3” cbh, 27.7” dbh), that Elijah measured to 111 ft., the tallest Basswood we’ve seen in the grove.

We entered the area of tall old Shagbark Hickories in the northwest corner of the grove. Elijah measured the tallest Shagbark Hickory (tallest in NY) to 118.4 ft., repeating the measurement of Jan. 4, 2015.

I measured a Shagbark Hickory north of the paved trail to 108.2 ft.

On a Basswood with balding bark (7.4 ft. cbh, 28.2” dbh) near the north edge of the grove, I got a straight up shot of 108.5 ft. It was near this tree, that in 2003, I found the record age for American Basswood, 242 rings on a log cross-section 38 ft. above the fallen tree’s base.

We examined the biggest Shagbark Hickory in the grove’s northwest corner. This should be the Onondaga County champion, and possibly even NY champion. It is a very old tree, and has then largest shags I’ve ever seen on Shagbark Hickory. The tree is 11’2” cbh (42.7” dbh), 112.8 ft. tall (from our Jan. 4, 2015 measurement), and has a crown spread of 57 ft. This gives the 134 points for circumference, 112.8 points for height, and 14.25 points for spread, giving a total of 261.05 AF points.

As we left the grove, I measured the only large Hophornbeam (5 ft. cbh, 19.1” dbh) in the grove, at the beginning of the paved trail to 65.4 ft.

Trees measured at Liverpool School Maple Grove Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 54.4” dbh 119.9, Onondaga County champion, largest tree in Grove, Grandfather Tree, est. 400 years old

Sugar Maple 124.6 (123.8 – Apr. 18, 2014)

Sugar Maple 127.8 tallest NY, tallest tree in Grove

Sugar Maple 122.2

Beech 116.5

Sugar Maple 125.3

Bitternut Hickory 124.7 previously 123.3

Sugar Maple 108 Grandmother Tree, very ancient

Sugar Maple 114.7

Beech 116.7

Basswood 97.8

Red Maple 110

Sugar Maple 115.3

Basswood 111

Shagbark Hickory 118.4 tallest NY, repeat of 1/4/2015 measurement

Shagbark Hickory 108.2

Basswood 108.5

Hophornbeam 65.4

Tallest of each Species in Liverpool School Maple Grove as of Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Beech 118

White Ash 111

Basswood 111

White Oak 96.3

Black Cherry 85.2

Yellow Birch 74.4

Hophornbeam 65.4

Liverpool School Maple Grove Rucker 10 Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Beech 118

White Ash 111

Basswood 111

White Oak 96.3

Black Cherry 85.2

Rucker 10: 113.82 ft.

Liverpool School Maple Grove Rucker 5 Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Rucker 5: 123.34 ft.

Tom Howard

On this very cold, becoming cloudy afternoon (Mon., Dec. 28, 2015, Elijah Whitcomb and I visited the magnificent old growth Liverpool School Maple Grove.

We stopped by the greatest tree of all, the possible Military Tract Witness Sugar Maple, which could be the largest Sugar Maple, the largest representative of our state tree, in NY. Elijah and I made careful measurements of this tree. It is 14’3” cbh (54.43” dbh), and 119.9 ft. tall. The crown spread is 63 ft. This gives 171 AF points for circumference, 119.9 points for height, and 15.75 points for spread, for a total of 306.65 AF points. It could be the largest forest-grown Sugar Maple in NY, or even in USA. A resident of the area, who we met Nov. 8, 2015, calls this tree the “Grandfather Tree.” We like the name.

I measured a Sugar Maple (8’1” cbh, 30.9” dbh) to the north of this tree to 124.6 ft. This is in a dense group of large and tall old Sugar Maples. ( I got 123.8 ft. on this tree last year.)

Elijah measured a bigger Sugar Maple (10’6” cbh, 40.1” dbh) just north of the giant champion to a height of 127.8 ft. This is the tallest Sugar Maple we know of in NY, the tallest example of NY’s state tree in NY. Last year Elijah got 126.7 ft. on this tree. This is the tallest tree we know of in the grove.

I measured a Sugar Maple (9’ cbh, 34.4” dbh) just northwest of the tallest to 122.2 ft.

I measured a Beech (6’6” cbh, 24.8” dbh) to the northwest of this tree to 116.5 ft.

In this same area, Elijah measured a large single-trunked Sugar Maple (11’ cbh, 42” dbh) with 2 ascending leaders to 125.3 ft.

This same section contains the grove’s only tall Bitternut Hickory. Earlier Elijah measured this tree to 123.3 ft. On Dec. 28, I found another higher branch in this tree’s complex crown, and got 124.7 ft. This is the tallest Hickory we know of in northern Onondaga County.

We next came to the tree that the resident we met Nov. 8 calls the “Grandmother Tree.” It is the second largest tree in the grove, a truly ancient looking Sugar Maple with huge, gnarled buttress roots, balding bark a long ways up its burly trunk, and a crown that broke off many years ago. This tree looks even older than the larger Grandfather Tree, and could be at least 350-400 or more years old. Elijah measured a cbh of 12’4” (47.1” dbh) and height of 108 ft. He said this tree was probably taller 175 years ago.

I measured a smaller Sugar Maple (7’1” cbh, 27.1” dbh) just north of the Grandmother Tree to 114.7 ft.

A Beech (7’6” cbh, 28.6” dbh) just northwest of this Sugar Maple is 116.7 ft. tall.

Elijah measured a small leaning Basswood (6’4” cbh, 24.2” dbh) to 97.8 ft.

I measured a big Red Maple in the low-lying primeval western section of the grove to 110 ft.

We next examined the big Red Maple near the paved trail (tallest we know of in NY, that I measured to 124.9 ft. on an earlier visit). This tree has a complex crown, and we couldn’t find the highest point. Elijah measured heights of 122 ft., 120 ft., 123 ft. This is one of the most difficult trees to measure.

I measured a Sugar Maple north of the paved trail to 115.3 Next to this tree is a large Basswood with balding bark (7’3” cbh, 27.7” dbh), that Elijah measured to 111 ft., the tallest Basswood we’ve seen in the grove.

We entered the area of tall old Shagbark Hickories in the northwest corner of the grove. Elijah measured the tallest Shagbark Hickory (tallest in NY) to 118.4 ft., repeating the measurement of Jan. 4, 2015.

I measured a Shagbark Hickory north of the paved trail to 108.2 ft.

On a Basswood with balding bark (7.4 ft. cbh, 28.2” dbh) near the north edge of the grove, I got a straight up shot of 108.5 ft. It was near this tree, that in 2003, I found the record age for American Basswood, 242 rings on a log cross-section 38 ft. above the fallen tree’s base.

We examined the biggest Shagbark Hickory in the grove’s northwest corner. This should be the Onondaga County champion, and possibly even NY champion. It is a very old tree, and has then largest shags I’ve ever seen on Shagbark Hickory. The tree is 11’2” cbh (42.7” dbh), 112.8 ft. tall (from our Jan. 4, 2015 measurement), and has a crown spread of 57 ft. This gives the 134 points for circumference, 112.8 points for height, and 14.25 points for spread, giving a total of 261.05 AF points.

As we left the grove, I measured the only large Hophornbeam (5 ft. cbh, 19.1” dbh) in the grove, at the beginning of the paved trail to 65.4 ft.

Trees measured at Liverpool School Maple Grove Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 54.4” dbh 119.9, Onondaga County champion, largest tree in Grove, Grandfather Tree, est. 400 years old

Sugar Maple 124.6 (123.8 – Apr. 18, 2014)

Sugar Maple 127.8 tallest NY, tallest tree in Grove

Sugar Maple 122.2

Beech 116.5

Sugar Maple 125.3

Bitternut Hickory 124.7 previously 123.3

Sugar Maple 108 Grandmother Tree, very ancient

Sugar Maple 114.7

Beech 116.7

Basswood 97.8

Red Maple 110

Sugar Maple 115.3

Basswood 111

Shagbark Hickory 118.4 tallest NY, repeat of 1/4/2015 measurement

Shagbark Hickory 108.2

Basswood 108.5

Hophornbeam 65.4

Tallest of each Species in Liverpool School Maple Grove as of Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Beech 118

White Ash 111

Basswood 111

White Oak 96.3

Black Cherry 85.2

Yellow Birch 74.4

Hophornbeam 65.4

Liverpool School Maple Grove Rucker 10 Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Beech 118

White Ash 111

Basswood 111

White Oak 96.3

Black Cherry 85.2

Rucker 10: 113.82 ft.

Liverpool School Maple Grove Rucker 5 Dec. 28, 2015:

Sugar Maple 127.8

Red Maple 124.9

Bitternut Hickory 124.7

Tuliptree 120.9

Shagbark Hickory 118.4

Rucker 5: 123.34 ft.

Tom Howard