American Hornbeam

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:05 pm

Today, same scene 33 years later.
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:09 pm

1980 pic again for easy side-by-side comparison.
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by edfrank » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:09 pm

Morgan, Bob,

I am wondering if anyone ever got up there to measure the tree height?

Ed
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:07 am

Just to mention my "freak show size" American Hornbeam is listed as NY champion again for the first time is many years after being dropped off the list in the 90's due to the "10 year rule" and being unable to get anybody from NY state to help get it listed again, even though they came and measured it in 2010.

Government bureau time frame. It's 83 feet tall which is circus freak size for this species. But here it is:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/lands_forest ... ampcom.pdf

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:33 am

Also listed as National Champion:

http://www.americanforests.org/explore- ... page_id=12

There is no Marlboro County. They meant Marlboro township, Ulster County. It's in Milton, NY.

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:59 pm

The hornbeam in Milton, NY is still national champion, as it has been on and off since 1975

https://www.americanforests.org/explore ... _page_id=1

Milton (Town of Marlboro) Ulster County

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:30 am

The new list from American Forests has a picture of my American Horbeam which has been national champion on and off since 1975.

It's 83 feet tall which is unheard of for this species. Here is the pic:

https://www.americanforests.org/big-tre ... roliniana/

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by dbhguru » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:15 am

Morgan,

Congratulations for hanging with this outstanding specimen. You alerted us to it years ago. What do the NY champion tree program people think or say about it? I get mixed signals about the strength of their program.

Bob
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:46 pm

NY started a new list, I think they lost the old list, maybe somebody retired or died or something. The new list has small trees that the same 2 or 3 guys found within the past year or 2.
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by Erik Danielsen » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:06 am

Morgan, NY has all the previous records for past lists on file with the DEC. I was just on the phone with Erin Brady, the coordinator, yesterday. They're working through the process of updating to the greatest degree possible, but it is considered to be a non-priority task as she and the other DEC employees have primary duties that are full time jobs. The list was refreshed earlier this month. The dozens of Doug Basset submissions are a known issue. Still plenty of multistems on the list, and plenty of heights that need to be verified (like your elm).

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