American Hornbeam

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American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:38 am

I discovered an American Hornbeam in Milton, NY in the 1960's that was finally measured in 1975 and became national champion that year, according to the American Forestry Association (now called American Forests). It remained undisputed champion on the national list for 25 years until the "10 year rule" kicked it off because the last time it had been measured before then was the 1980's.

NY DEC again measured it in 2010 and not only was it still by far the largest, but it had grown by a LOT!

DEC never filed the report with the people in Albany responsible for making the list, or they lost the report. Never got on the list

Time to get a new report in? I think it's probably grown since 2010 and the current "champion" is a dinky little thing. The Milton tree is 86 feet tall and has a giant trunk, I forget the girth or crown. Around 140 inches maybe

I have the details. Who wants to measure it?
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:41 am

This is the Milton near Poughkeepsie, not the Milton by Saratoga or the one near Buffalo. Why does NY have 3 Miltons?

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by Will Blozan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:39 pm

86' tall!!!!!!!!!!!!

Were talking Carpinus right? That height has never been found anywhere in all our searches. 77' for forest grown is best NTS has discovered.

Also, I assume it is not the far larger European species...

Will

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by Matt Markworth » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:20 pm

Here is a reference to a National Champion American Hornbeam in Milton, NY. I'd love to see an up-to-date measurement and find out how much this beast has grown!

“National champion American hornbeam (1975), 7’2” circumf., 65’ in height, 66’ spread, Milton, N.Y.”

Godfrey, Robert K. Trees, Shrubs, and Woody Vines of Northern Florida and Adjacent Georgia and Alabama. Athens, GA: University of Georgia Press, 1988.

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:25 pm

77 feet is very rare. This tree is national champion material and has been for decades, so of course it's the biggest. It was the biggest when it was only 65 feet tall, and oooooh how it has grown since 1975!!

Give me an email address and I'll send you photos of the tree, both from a distance and up close.

Checked to make sure it wasn't the European species. Turned out to be a blue blooded American

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by Will Blozan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:55 pm

Morgan,

Would love to see pics. tsuga173@gmail.com

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:31 pm

You got it babe. Tell us what you think.

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by Joe » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:09 am

morgan wrote:77 feet is very rare. This tree is national champion material and has been for decades, so of course it's the biggest. It was the biggest when it was only 65 feet tall, and oooooh how it has grown since 1975!!

Give me an email address and I'll send you photos of the tree, both from a distance and up close.

Checked to make sure it wasn't the European species. Turned out to be a blue blooded American
how about posting some photos of it here?

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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by dbhguru » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:45 am

Morgan, et. al.

I do plan to get over there and measure that beauty. I could possibly do it on my return from the 2013 joint TCI-NTS rendezvous in Atlanta. That would be around Oct 17.

Bob
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Re: American Hornbeam

Post by morgan » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:20 pm

Ok Bob thanks. Contact me and I will give you the address and the name of the owner of the house where the tree is, we can meet there together. It would be nice to meet you in person. As for that house in Milton, I lived in that house from 1959 to 1968 so I have known about the tree for 54 years, so am intimately familiar with everything involved with that tree. This isn't new to me, it's by far the biggest freak-show hornbeam on steroids so it will blow your mind.

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